Thomas Souheur: Welcome to the new podcast, to new episode. It's not new podcast, but to the new episode of Meister aller Klassen. Nice you again, Erik. And today we each Today we each and you touch us too. We touch you by seeing this time. How do you it? A sea podcast. At the sea. At the sea. At the At the sea. So we are right here at the bottom. At the Viek or how it's At the Viek. Chris. Tell a little bit about it. Where are we? So we are here. We are in Greifswald. You know that we are here. Not only in Greifswald, but in Utkik. In Utkik, near Greifswald. Or it's part Greifswald, not so many details. And yesterday we were at the opening of the Pomeranian State Museum, where we a podcast, an episode, I don't which one. But we also an episode Yesterday was a big opening, lot of people came, crazy. We thought it would 80 people coming, it felt like 300. It was really great, really great and really full. They all over our beautiful works and we looked the things, looked the steps, looked where there were I have to say, we found something, the mistakes. We found they cleaned It doesn't good. There's more to it. But we decided to continue because it pretty hard. Every time we record we say, now we continue or now we don't continue. a weak point. No, we have to continue. Yes, have continue. Our differences have cleared You got He already the mafia on me in the of his wife. I got a throatache already. We have some mafioso-mafioso-machin-shaften in our family. No, everything fine. We just time. It was such a crazy year. And many people Did you get to how it was? From spring or winter to spring and then to summer. You in the podcast. Now we're doing a winter break And then from summer to winter... The beginning of year was so quiet and suddenly it Time goes by way too fast. And now it's cold I'll you where we Right on the water. Look that. Awesome. We're taking a hotel room. We're a hotel right... How do say again? At the the U-Kick. Right at the top. Wonderful. We've Thank you Steffi. Thank you Steffi for something nice. We're well. We've in a bed together. We're cuddling. We always But not because we have to, but because we can. What is new to tell? Master of all classes. What is it about? It's about craftsmen stories, it's about something new, something old, crazy. It's about us two dudes, what we at the construction site. And now new with video on YouTube. You can watch it. And some snippets for Instagram. can check What have you experienced lately? Tell us. A story that... The listeners don't to all the details. But impressive. What do we want to start with? Good or bad? We can do something bad in the future. Yes, we'll with something really bad. The most extreme thing is that there is no at There is simply zero construction sites. If you start you're there because some farm or several farms no longer find That's not because they don't want to time anymore, because this time management is completely on the track at If someone is sick at some company, then everything apart like a card house. It just doesn't with us anymore. The sanitary companies complain that no one to work anymore, no one after us I started with five sanitary companies and three are closing down. But not because they have no people, but because they old bosses who no longer continue and find no successor. Oh, they're closing down Exactly, closing down And then the employees are not being they just to the next company. They everywhere, there are always only two or three men who are in the They so small companies, Who all the big buildings and not these private And the small are just still struggling. So it's good, but it just to be more people. It has to attractive. That means you wait for your construction sites, you wait for the companies to get so you continue. I 5 cm of cable. What kind of Water? Water. Exactly. 15 cm, so felt 15 cm, was now, don't what was warm water, something to the introduction. 30 cm then, felt 30 cm were, yes, two months. What else you have do? Do you to a lot? you the bathroom? No, we only to the shower area. And the customer is for him to finally shower? Since summer. Since summer he has for the bathroom. No, was a water damage. It turned out that in this house ... I have never heard of wood ants in Germany. They eat wood? I as termites. we have with photos and insurance. No, they wood ants. They eat wood. They pharmacells. They pharmacell plate completely in the back. Seriously? completely. They are normal ants. Very, very small. But did migrate? Did you bring them from somewhere? They don't here, Don't me. I'm not an insectologist or biologist. Google it. Wood ants. Very curious. We first thought, well, one ant runs along. It's not bad. It's in the I was surprised. It's the upper floor. Originally from Europe and Asia, but now worldwide. Globalization, the whole thing... Yes... So, crazy, totally crazy stuff. That's terrible. I've never heard Glossy black wood ants, Europe and Asia. Exactly. And this is really small. It's not a huge ant. It's 4 mm, 5 mm. It's not an extreme giant. What it eat? whole house? No, it in the shower area. It's a wooden house. A whole USB drive, a whole wonderful area. first 50cm there was no USB drive anymore. And the line in between was like drugs for Yes, maybe it was the drive that was main They everything around the The Fermazell drives were not completely eaten but they very piqued. And what did they do? A camera hunter? We opened the whole thing and then we a Camarga. We got that the ants don't spread We sprayed Beautiful, the ants turn Exactly, the turn around. The the house, the stairs... 10-part shit. And a few matchboxes. A bus, matchbox. A real road to the house. And the cameraman said we wouldn't everything... Spray can be the process yes, but they would otherwise be everywhere because we have whole shower out and really got out and said and now got it removed or yes yes are out of they are out so we have also looked So it's nothing more. Nothing. Again new USB-plates. Now we have aqua panels. Let's if they break when they are inserted Do you think they will back? No, don't so. But you don't It has been big damage when you the house or bathroom or upper floor. It's not without. So had to a static. But it was really just the shower area. That's the animal looks like. So a standard ant. Yes, actually. But it eats up all the wood. A little ant here. Exactly. That's they look like. But really, the ant is completely destroyed. And now we're on it. Maybe before Christmas. We have Tuesday, December 16th. A week before Christmas. We are in the hotel room in Greifswald. And the problem is... In least 40 minutes the home trip to Dresden. Yes, don't that much time here, so we to little step back and talk. So, that was your fail. Or your fail is much more... The fail ants. The ants are your fail. Your biggest fail. now I have to think bit what my fail It big fail. There were so many little things in my A big fail was this year, beginning of the second quarter, in March. We had already a video but I we could tell The fail was that my orders suddenly down That was the big fail this year, but we catch by changing everything. I don't know. We had a bathroom and the bathroom was in the shower and a roof rack. And the fuses in the roof rack couldn't on. No, why? Don't the tiles? Yes, exactly. Stretching the tiles or a 60x60 and then cutting them would be a possibility. But that wasn't the plan. You that. You don't the steps. And the employee didn't understand I asked him, how you it? He said, and measure. The tiles are too short. Thomas, I don't that. It doesn't I've now. One two years. Everything fine. They so much time to learn. We've this for 26 years. It's a bit longer. I let them it No, pushed a Until they No, it was But he with a and a line. And no, the tiles are too short. There were fans, hot fans, so that the tiles would But the biggest fail was that I stopped working on the construction sites. That was the biggest fail this year. What does that stopped? I time differently and that was the biggest mistake. doesn't And also, I some employees. One is still traveling around world. He will be back But I it little smaller and I'm with it And projects are, of course, you get to have much more And that's the positive effect That I'm more intense things now. I fought and networks, I stepped in the networks where I was. With my network I got out and then into the one where it actually makes with a Schleswig environment, I'm much more in and that's I lot more orders and that was really worth That's the positive. What's the positive about this year? It's over now. It was a crazy year. was nice and crazy. And next year we'll the normal stuff Next year you'll with holidays. do you think? Christmas holidays? Or New Year's? Yes? Are you holiday? No, I'm... On the 5th starts, I 5 days off, do how much that is? I would say you have to holiday now. Yes, for 5 days in the new year already. No, I haven't planned yet. No, orders are there, that's fun, there nice things. Also big things and broken things. I only Eisenberg Swim Pool. Ah, here. Yes, tell me, that's just crazy. What did you do? So a swimming pool and a shower. Public shower, means highest requirement for sealing. Actually on everything. everything. The wing, seal, everything to be kept. Exactly. On the one built, has to be the highest. That means, the had go that has to run enough, because there are several heads inside. Large runs have to inside. Large runs. And they have a flange, there a flange around it. It inside. And with epoxy and so on and so was all inside. It was just a very small run-off. A very small flange and lot of holes that you into the floors. Who the planner? No idea. It was built It's been a few days now. We were called by the neighbor's and said Eric, you can't just look at this, it's dripping through the ceiling. Down below. On the system. No, the same room, the ceiling. Just kidding. What was down below? The whole pump system. And no, the whole electronics and everything. Oh shit. Why did he call because we to work more often. We seem to understand well. Is public? A swimming pool? Yes, that's a public swimming pool. So public registration? No, that went to the company. I think it's a certain amount and you don't to sign And so I and we took and they said, yes, we'll But it's extremely. I yes, it's undigested. And then we looked, all the boreholes that were made, no sealant in it, was just all installed, what you could only install. Yes, happens, we to do What? They just in? They just drilled in, no sealant, no flange attached anything. No polymer or resin or anything else. Or these... So it was a kind of water-bent? They're open With these cabins. Exactly, these cabins, these toilet cabins or... where there is only a post and the plate sits on The two posts were screwed with 20 screws. They drilled everywhere into the seal and didn't it. is permanent wet area. They said themselves the thing is actually only wet. I even in the swimming pool for first time Super nice swimming pool with stainless steel tanks and water slides and everything. And what else happened? The water is pulled all the way to the entrance and we can still out But did they... It's not big deal. It's just... The shower system has completely new? It probably put into the whole thing. What do put Subtractable. What does that mean? Only the rim? No, whole shower, the whole shower field was probably put Because something cut open by the Estrich and nothing was closed, no sealing level. But are they in this area where the shower is in? Are there in there? We took out the whole floor. No, before that. Everything was out. To repair And they rebuilt it and sealed it. And how did you in Due to the sealing level from the to the old they didn't close anything. didn't a capillary layer. They under the glue or between glue. It could be a sealing. You didn't see it running through. Most people don't what a capillary layer is. is it? It's just a layer to protect so that the moisture doesn't anywhere. To stop something. You have a layer, a sealing and the glue. This glue has many small holes, you can't them. Like when you gravel at home. When you have the water through There are many small holes, you can't them. With such fine gravel you can't them. is always moisture in it. And that is capillary. And through the capillary the water reaches there. And also a shower at home, if you have many small fangs, the water back into the bathroom. and can meter by meter. If you problems with and can't control take the fuge of the edge bucket, take the sealant strip or the edge damper strip or the fill string, take it out, fill it with a polymer or with But never with acrylic and not with a lead-on. Lead-on has this capillary effect. Why do edge-detach? Because many interrupted Exactly, have to completely interrupt Between the wall and the floor. has completely closed. Otherwise you the problem that will into the next coating. Or have to from the coating like ... living room or or where it is not connected mostly but more from another area in the floor in that the sealing and then the cover goes through the moisture and then it collects then normally it goes on to next one because normally you actually all in the right beard around sealed and then only the sealing is next room. that's mostly in hallway. it's also recommended directly To the straight area and the shower area. And then to adjacent surface of the drain. To prevent the from cracking. That's important. But if you don't have and it hasn't been yet, do it in the area between bathroom and floor. That you the next rooms from moisture. Because if water comes up and maybe it's in the next room, may be that the insurance does not take Yes, that's true. If a good author comes and sets the rules. is the we don't take part in but the bathroom is okay, but floor. The company them on that, they told what needs No, nothing can happen, it has come. If you such a wavy insurance, you ... They just to get The money is theirs. If good author, he checks it. The big expensive cars want to the insurance company. Nobody a dacia anymore. What was the last project you were in? My last project was... Or is... Is now in a in a heating room. So just basement? 30 or 60? No, 60, 1 meter 20, 60 I think. No, 60, 60, sorry, 60, 60. Rest post. Before that we a nice little a few floors. We are still the pool house. We a pool house. I saw it followed it. That a challenging story with all the sealing shit. I call it sealing shit, think it's fun to with and with liquid plastic. It's fun. It's a plastic tank and you it somehow. We that liquid plastic. It out very well. 1.20 meters, 1.20 meters times 2 centimeters strong. 63 kg. That was heavy. And beacons as a step. We working the sockets. There will be a sluice rail. Rondek on We will now. And we the window benches. And then we the whole thing with epoxy. With epoxy putty. With the X-Fusion. I don't advertise for Codex but... But this a cool fuge, have to say. There are other fuges, so There are other epoxy fuges. I have say, all the epoxy stories from the... and the big manufacturers have more If I think about it, years 15 years or 10 years ago, how they still smeared what kind of crap you to You had to hot water, you don't do But it helps. The future is not to be used as large area the records we have are actually for the outside area. They are pretty rough surface. You can't slip on it, that's advantage. The customer wanted too. He's often in some bathing... ...baths. That sounds really East German. Hello, I'm the deepest East German. Look where we live, almost in Poland. Where did I stop? Sliding. That's why I don't to in full screen. with epoxy, you what kind of work that That's crazy. And then you a patina on it, you to scrub to it clean again. No. That's why we it all off we glue nicely beforehand. And then there a system from Kodex, I it on their website, you can use a silicone syringe, but it's much fatter. You can fill the epoxy material and spray it into the So spray it with the epoxy gun and your employees get a spray bag of Tupac or Aldi. We do different things. And then you who is the fastest. No, that's possible. That's challenge. And I always that that day I into the pool. Because also to... The steps go into the pool, the water is already full. How do you want to get A hose boat. Exactly. A hose boat, awesome! Can you also use a big mattress? Yes, One has to tight so I around it. Like a piece of air mattress. You can things Like for babies, for small children, where you That would be ideal, you can it. and to hang them in maybe a little wider, like a piece cake, a triangle air mattress. Yes, think I have to in too. I the water is warm, is 10 degrees. It heated it is 25 degrees and the heat is high at 28-29 degrees. It will be comfortable. It will nice. Yes, we are just getting and now we let it like it. Now we on vacation, but no. In the winter holidays. We're through now, Or do we want to in January? So we don't to a week mode we've for long time, that we probably won't in time. So least every two weeks. Minimum. That's the minimum and if we can then... We every two weeks. But we're back regularly now because... Yes. It's fun. Erik and I missed this year. We always thought of the others. We didn't talk because we our differences. Exactly. And now here bed... Tonight we... We've We don't diverse things. No, we are like one egg twin. Everyone two eggs. I don't think many women will to this podcast. And if they That's a craft. It doesn't With nonsense and stupidity. It's not anything negative. Sometimes it But it's still meant So if someone sees that, we don't care. And the other way around, just like that. Yes, but I'm really looking forward to it. Yes, definitely. And always a topic on we through and then we little bit about it, that's how we it. So also in the last episode, it's been a long time since we about the whole thing with... We'll you a jingle for We don't time for that. so weak. I have to the last five episodes when this out To find out how it sounds when we say and then we it differently. Don't get confused, guys. We're just normal guys. who sometimes you good things and sometimes get you lot glitches. this podcast is there Master of all classes, we are back! Back to the roots. Back to the tiles, back to the roots. Back to back, back to black, back to white. We can always see how it on And now we're going home. Exactly. Two days of work left us. Friday we'll shifts. layer I check if I get it in. I had the pain in my had a real tear in my It's not common to such big plates. They weigh 60 kg. Without glue. Look at this. It was 90 kg. And? Did complain? No, because he didn't anything. He just kept his mouth shut. He just videos. The architect was also very enthusiastic. Everyone was very enthusiastic. The chief architect. The curators, the museum directors, all of them. They were all very enthusiastic about the whole, in general, we are doing there. Sunda Plassmann architect. I didn't even that the father was great architect. But the son, he is already his footsteps. The Gregor Sunda Plassmann. He a fine guy and I to him very It's a good architectural office. That's a lot of fun. To to that was very special. That's why we like here in Greifsfeld. We also to a place There Copenhagen. Back I Wiesbaden. Yesterday we a construction site together. Wahl. The staff officer who was the biggest gangster. We Copenhagen and now here in Greifswald. That a bit boring. We the outer stairs yesterday. Couldn't get further, it was too hot. Now in the light it be nice. Drive it I can't further. The two-story stairs. I'm to ask you to in. I'm in mood for I'm home! How long do you drive? 8 hours? Yes, 8 hours. Three and a half. But I still to refuel a I'm here with the electrician. So, five. So, no, thank you. that long. Nowadays, it's very fast. I'm a bit I've a bit yesterday. 40 minutes, 45 minutes I have to charge now. But I'll myself a nice coffee. Somewhere nice. Work a little And then we're out. So, master of all classes is back. For you. Share us. Give us on Spotify. We want a bit the end of 2026. Not so close. How the 2026? 500. Are going to make Sure, we Are we to You are asked out You... 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